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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144412" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144412">(Jun 17 2020 at 13:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>Topic creation</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144495" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144495">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144507">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144511" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144511">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144522">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2943">@T-infra</span> meeting time!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144524">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144537" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144537">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>and as usual jake beats us all</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144548">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144911">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, let's start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144929" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144929">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have no issues for us to look at this week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144952" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144952">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>so let's jump straight into the agenda!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mental <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144964">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201144996" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201144996">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Start gating on GHA again, excluding macOS builders</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145125" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145125">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not opposed, I agree that the benefits of faster rejection seem good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145165" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145165">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>the proposal was here: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-central-station/issues/848">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-central-station/issues/848</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145169">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sounds good to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145184">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>the numbers are indeed nice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145238">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>are the GHA machines that much faster!?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145261">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>well they have 4x the number of cores :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145401" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145401">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, if I remember correctly all non-macOS builders finish in like a bit more than an hour on GHA</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145429" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145429">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>macOS will be the bottleneck, as the macOS builders only have 4 cores instead of 8</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145457" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145457">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>at the end of the migration I expect builds to take a bit less than 2 hours each</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145686" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145686">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>ugh I miss typing indicators during meetings</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145706" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145706">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems good then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145727" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145727">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok! I'll send a PR after the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145840" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145840">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>on a bit of an update on macOS, GitHub is still investigating while builds are being cancelled -- only the datacenter we're in seems to experience that though ("yay"), so I'm told they're going to look whether it's feasible to migrate our builds to a healthy datacenter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145855">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>so hopefully we won't have to keep the double-gate on for too long</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145907">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>moving on!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201145969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201145969">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Splitting team synchronization off of rust-central-station</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146022" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146022">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is a thing I've been looking at recently: currently team synchronization is happening with a binary for each service running in a cron every 5 minutes on RCS</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146094" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146094">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>that makes deployments painful (it's RCS after all) and the separate binaries require a bunch of reimplementation every time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146195" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146195">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've been looking at setting up more synchronizations in the past few days, and I had an idea on how to change this setup</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146211">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>fwiw I've been looking at cron-like jobs on ECS and those seem not too hard to get working, so if we want to that's plausibly viable (and we can even trigger directly, not on cron)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146290">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically I'd split all the synchronization code in its own repo, merge it and setup the rust-lang/team CI to spawn the task directly on ECS as soon as the change is merged</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146334" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146334">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>with an additional cron every day to make sure changes are still synchronized eventually</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146396" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146396">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>does anyone have feedback on this or can I go ahead?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146442">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems good to me!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146459" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146459">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>go for it!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146462" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146462">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>another approach would be to run the synchronization directly in rust-lang/team's CI, but I'm not too keen to store the keys to the kingdom in GHA</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146521">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I think keeping those to AWS is good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146560">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's try a thing -- react to this message if you have something to say, or we'll move on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146693" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146693">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok let's move on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146733" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146733">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Allocating spare CI builder</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201146980" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201146980">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>our current CI builders situation is the following (according to GHA since we're a bit more constrained there):</p>
<ul>
<li>we have the capacity of 60 parallel github-hosted builds for auto and try builds combined</li>
<li>a full auto build use(d) 57 builders, but one of them finishes in like 10/20 minutes (mingw-check)</li>
<li>a try build uses 2 builders<br>
that means at the same time we can run an auto build and two try builds</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147077">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> recently merged a PR that removed one of the builders, so an auto build now takes 56 (or 55 at the end) builders</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147282">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>we also have two PRs that require two new dist builders for host targets:<br>
<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/71272">#71272</a> - x86_64-unknown-illumos, opened on april 18th<br>
<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/72973">#72973</a> - riscv64-unknown-linux-gnu, opened on june 4th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147320" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147320">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>fwiw we can cut try builds down to one builder basically unnoticed, I don't think anything uses alt builds today, though I could be wrong</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147417" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147417">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't recall if I ever switched crater to use non-alt builds</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147435" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147435">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>but tbh testing assertions on crater seems good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147462" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147462">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, not sure. regardless we could always switch to alt builds for non-check crater</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147477">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe not worth the hassle</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147503">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't really know what a good way to decide here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147522">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe just first come first serve? feels a bit awkward</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147564">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>heh yeah, both target seems kinda niche still, so I don't see a priority for them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147689" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147689">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we cut down try builds (either allowing just a try build at the time or by reducing the number of builders in the try build) we can merge both, otherwise we'll have to decide which one to enable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201147877" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201147877">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm, we don't have any prioritization right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148040">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, deprioritizing try builds? that's not possible afaik</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148097" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148097">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we can say that you need to uncomment the alt builder for crater (if really needed)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148120" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148120">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>that seems not too bad, especially if we say that it's only for non-check crater</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148349">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>so you're proposing to accept both and cut down on the number of try builders to just one?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148362" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148362">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm makes sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148382">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148422">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>what does the rest of the team think?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148484" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148484">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>what were alt builds for again?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148509">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>assertions in or something?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148575" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148575">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>makes sense to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148586" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148586">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>they enable debug and llvm assertions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148972">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm I think it's just llvm?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201148982" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201148982">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd be kinda interested to see the reaction if we said "we're out of builders" - we're going to hit that at some point right? so maybe people come back and say "but what about X, Y, Z" and they're long term ideas, and then we can rejig other builders in the interim<br>
basically adding some backpressure<br>
maybe it's a bit mean...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149074">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>verify llvm IR, llvm asserts, and parallel compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149156">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code>RUST_CONFIGURE_ARGS=&quot;$RUST_CONFIGURE_ARGS --set rust.parallel-compiler&quot;
RUST_CONFIGURE_ARGS=&quot;$RUST_CONFIGURE_ARGS --enable-llvm-assertions&quot;
RUST_CONFIGURE_ARGS=&quot;$RUST_CONFIGURE_ARGS --set rust.verify-llvm-ir&quot;
</code></pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149339" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149339">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="117568">Aidan Hobson Sayers</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting/near/201148982">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I'd be kinda interested to see the reaction if we said "we're out of builders" - we're going to hit that at some point right? so maybe people come back and say "but what about X, Y, Z" and they're long term ideas, and then we can rejig other builders in the interim</p>
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<p>I think as a project it's in our best interest to support as many platforms as feasible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149409" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149409">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think eventually we'll want some sort of "sponsorship" for platforms -- especially the more esoteric ones -- but yeah, at this point I think if we can accept a platform we should</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149416" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149416">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree! I mean the long term ideas might be ideas about how we can support more platforms, but they'll take a while to implement</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149487">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>(maybe the answer is indeed just "sponsorship")</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149570">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean as long as github/microsoft are willing to sponsor builders we don't really have much pressure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149626" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149626">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>and once we fully switch to GHA we can merge back all the <code>-1</code> <code>-2</code> builders we created to keep CI times manageable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149673" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149673">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>(well presuming that doesn't just bloat them again, but sure)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149690">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I've got to step away - but look forward to reading the rest of the meeting - &lt;3 to you all!)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149819" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149819">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> those builders are running tests, and with 8 cores we complete tests rather fast comparing to two cores</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149894" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149894">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>but that's more long term I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201149948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201149948">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>does anyone have other things to say? react to this message in that case!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201150127" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201150127">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok then! we have only one item left, but that's unfortunately private. Does anyone have other topics to bring up in the public meeting? React to this message in that case!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201150267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201150267">(Jun 17 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's all for the public part of the meeting then! see the team in /private, and the rest of the community next week!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201162551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aaron Hill <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201162551">(Jun 17 2020 at 16:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Don't alt builds also enable cfg(parallel_compiler) ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201163567" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201163567">(Jun 17 2020 at 16:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, but that doesn't really matter for crater or perf</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/201163613" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#201163613">(Jun 17 2020 at 16:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>which are most of the uses of try builds</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/202534895" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#202534895">(Jul 01 2020 at 06:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>i may not be able to be at the 7/1 meeting, but I look forward to reading the backscroll!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17%20meeting/near/202569353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-06-17.20meeting.html#202569353">(Jul 01 2020 at 13:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>same for me</p>



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